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Re: Tragic - why?
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No offence taken. However, I disagree with your interpretation of mr
guptara's comments. no self respcting indian could let this juvenile
comment pass without a fitting reply.
sanjay
>From: Venkat Kesaraju <kevenkat@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: debate@indiapolicy.org
>To: debate@indiapolicy.org
>Subject: Re: Tragic - why?
>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:58:11 -0800 (PST)
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>I see nothing wrong in Mr.Guptara's posting. He made
>his point. No need to get 'personal' about it, sir.
>Let it pass if the argument does not make you
>comfortble. The last thing we need is another verbal
>duel in this forum. No offence meant , please.
>
>Thanks
>Venkat
>--- Sam Garg <gargsam@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > I take issue with almost everything mr. Guptara
> > writes in this post. He
> > fondly imagines this tirade to be an incisive
> > analysis of ills that befall
> > our society but is, in actual fact, nothing more
> > than propaganda,
> > unsubstantiated theorizing and naïve guessing. If
> > it makes him feel any
> > better, this little gem will likely draw polite
> > applause at a meeting of
> > rabid socialists in Bengal but will occasion nothing
> > but mirth and well
> > deserved derision in saner sections of society.
> >
> >
> > >From: prabhu.guptara@ubs.com
> > >Reply-To: debate@indiapolicy.org
> > >To: debate@indiapolicy.org
> > >Subject: RE: Tragic - why?
> > >Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:18:24 -0800 (PST)
> > >
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> > >Buildings are only *designed* by architects, they
> > are built in India by
> > >people
> > >who we have not yet succeeded in educating very
> > much because of our
> > >anti-modern
> > >attitudes to education, and they are built *with*
> > cement and bricks which
> > >are
> > >usually of low quality because of the low level of
> > practical morality which
> > >we
> > >have due to our culture at present.
> > >
> > >It is exactly parallel to a discussion I had with a
> > prof from the Delhi
> > >School
> > >of Economics, who I asked why we had a world-class
> > economics institution
> > >but
> > >failed to actually transform economics in India.
> > His reply was that
> > >economists
> > >could theorise and construct plans, but their
> > theories and models did not
> > >take
> > >into consideration the key factor of corruption.
> > That is what kills
> > >quality,
> > >that is what kills improvement.
> > >
> > >The Hindutva brigade, like many of us on this
> > discussion, are great at
> > >words
> > >but hopeless at action. I see that only *one*
> > person has offered to sign
> > >the
> > >letter that I drafted in the Major Bhatnagar case
> > and that no one has
> > >offered
> > >any amendments or other suggestions. While grand
> > gestures, heroism,
> > >martyrdom
> > >etc. are not beyond us, I repeat that we Indians
> > are great at talk, but
> > >hopeless at the sort of consistent actions that
> > actually build a country.
> > >
> > >prabhu guptara
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Npsingh123
> > >Sent: Montag, 29. Januar 2001 23:49
> > >To: debate
> > >Cc: Npsingh123
> > >Subject: Tragic
> > >
> > >
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> > >We export Engineers and Architects to the world and
> > yet our buildings fare
> > >much worse in the earthquake than the buildings in
> > say Los Angeles or
> > >Japan!!!!! Thoughts from any people in the know????
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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