RE: i opener for few (or many) ?!

["Sunil, Mogadati" <m.sunil@barco.com>]

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There are two important aspects to religious tolerance.
Firstly, the ability to see and recognize what is good in
religions other than one's own. Secondly, the willingness
to take the criticism done to one's own religion in a good
spirit and accept/rectify/respond positively to the criticism.
The medieval churches that were responsible for the
inquisition failed in both these accounts and were intolerant.
It could not in the mildest of criticism and responded
by physical attack.

"Tolerance" has become perhaps the most misused word
in the recent times among certain sections of society. Some
people have a tendency to use the term to mean a non-critical
and unquestioning attitude. The following article assumes all
conversions to be of forceful and fraudulent and that it has
something to do with colonialism. One wonders if that applies
to the conversion of Ambedkar and his followers to Buddhism
(colonialism may he something to do his choice of Buddhism
instead of Christianity) or to those like Pandita Rama Bhai or
Nehemiah Goreh or to Christians who claimed to have converted
to Hinduism. Does this description make any sense in case of
conversions between Islam and Christianity? The article describes
even military failure to be tolerance.
What I agree with the article is that the issue of persecution of
Christians in India is often blown out of proportion, though subtle
instigation
for violence against Christians may be going on to a good extent.
Those who are aware of what is going on in this country regarding
the conversion debate are well aware of what is stated in this article.
This is one of the many brand of articles/writings that use the
medieval inquisition of the church and colonialism (committed by
those supposedly Christian) as if the Indian Christians of today are
the surviving supporters of these. The urge of a Indian Christian to
preach Christ is similar to the urge of a Vedantin to preach
Vedanta or any Hindu swami to preach his philosophy. It has nothing
to do with colonialism or the inquisition. The Christians today
condemn the inquisition and atrocities committed during colonial
period as unchrist-like.
It needs genuine tolerance from both Christians and Hindus to take
in the right spirit, if a Christian starts considering herself/himself to be
a Hindu or the other way round. What we have to fight is to prevent
illegitimate means and ways of conversions.




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> I felt it is worthwile to shre with our members. As it is always good to
> get
> an Objective analysis.
>
> http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/oct/25franc.htm
>
> Will Hinduism survive the present Christian offensive?
> When Prime Minister Vajpayee was in the US in September, the National
> Association of Asian Christians in the US (whom nobody had heard about
> before), paid $ 50,000 to the New York Times to publish 'an Open Letter to
> the Hon'ble Atal Bihari Vajpayee, prime minister of India.'
> While 'warmly welcoming the PM,' the NAAIC expressed deep concern about
> the
> 'persecution' of Christians in India by 'extremist' (meaning Hindu)
> groups,
> mentioning as examples 'the priest, missionaries and church workers who
> have
> been murdered,' the nuns 'raped,' and the potential enacting of conversion
> laws, which would make 'genuine' conversions illegal. The letter concluded
> by saying 'that Christians in India today live in fear.'
> The whole affair was an embarrassment (as it was intended to be) to Mr
> Vajpayee and the Indian delegation, which had come to prod American
> businessmen to invest in India, a peaceful, pro-Western and democratic
> country.
> I am born a Christian and I have had a strong Catholic education. I do
> believe that Christ was an incarnation of Pure Love and that His Presence
> still radiates in the world. I also believe there are human beings who
> sincerely try to incarnate the ideals of Jesus and that you can find today
> in India a few missionaries (such as Father Ceyrac, a French Jesuit, who
> works mostly with lepers in Tamil Nadu), who are incarnations of that
> Love,
> tending tirelessly to people, without trying to convert them.
> But I have also lived for more than 30 years in India, I am married to an
> Indian, I have traveled the length and breath of this country and I have
> evolved a love and an understanding of India, which few other foreign
> correspondents have, because they are never posted long enough to start
> getting a real feeling of this vast and often baffling country (nobody can
> claim to fully understand India). And this is what I have to say about the
> 'persecution' of Christians in India.
> Firstly, it is necessary to bring about a little bit of a historical
> flashback, which very few foreign correspondents (and unfortunately also
> Indian journalists) care to do, which would make for a more balanced view
> of
> the problem.
> If ever there was persecution, it was of the Hindus at the hands of
> Christians, who were actually welcomed in this country, as they have been
> welcomed in no other place on this planet. Indeed, the first Christian
> community of the world, that of the Syrian Christians, was established in
> Kerala in the first century; they were able to live in peace and practice
> their religion freely, even imbibing some of the local Hindu customs,
> until
> the Jesuits came in the 16th century and told them it was 'heathen' to
> have
> anything to do with the Hindus, thereby breaking the Syrian Church in two.
>
> When Vasco de Gama landed in Kerala in 1498, he was generously received by
> the Zamorin, the Hindu king of Calicut, who granted him the right to
> establish warehouses for commerce. But once again, Hindu tolerance was
> exploited and the Portuguese wanted more and more. In 1510, Alfonso de
> Albuquerque seized Goa, where he started a reign of terror, burning
> 'heretics,' crucifying Brahmins, using false theories to forcibly convert
> the lower castes, razing temples to build churches upon them and
> encouraging
> his soldiers to take Indian mistresses.
> Indeed, the Portuguese perpetrated here some of the worst atrocities ever
> committed in Asia by Christianity upon another religion. Ultimately, the
> Portuguese had to be kicked out of India, when all other colonisers had
> already left.
> British missionaries in India were always supporters of colonialism; they
> encouraged it and their whole structure was based on 'the good Western
> civilised world being brought to the Pagans.' Because, in the words of
> Claudius Bucchanan, a chaplain attached to the East India Company,
> 'Neither
> truth, nor honesty, honour, gratitude, nor charity, is to be found in the
> breast of a Hindoo!' What a comment about a nation that gave the world the
> Vedas at a time when Europeans were still grappling in their caves!
> And it is in this way that the British allowed entire chunks of
> territories
> in the East, where lived tribals, whose poverty and simplicity, made them
> easy prey to be converted to Christianity. By doing so, the Christian
> missionaries cut a people from their roots and tradition, made them look
> westwards towards a culture and a way of life which was not theirs.
> And the result is there today for everyone to see: it is in these eastern
> states, some of which are 90 per cent Christian, that one finds the
> biggest
> drug problems (and crime) in India. It should also be said that many of
> the
> eastern separatist movements have been covertly encouraged by Christian
> missionaries on the ground that 'tribals were there before the "Aryan
> Hindus" invaded India and imposed Hinduism upon on them.'
> The trouble is that the latest archaeological and linguistic discoveries
> point out to the fact that there NEVER was an Aryan invasion of India --
> it
> just was an invention of the British and the missionaries to serve their
> purpose.
> Secondly, Christianity has always striven on the myth of persecution,
> which
> in turn bred "martyrs" and saints, indispensable to the propagation of
> Christianity. But it is little known, for instance, that the first
> "saints"
> of Christianity, "martyred" in Rome, a highly refined civilisation, which
> had evolved a remarkable system of gods and goddesses, some of whom were
> derived from Hindu mythology via the Greeks, were actually killed (a
> normal
> practice in those days), while bullying peaceful Romans to embrace the
> "true" religion, in the same way that later Christian missionaries will
> browbeat "heathen" Hindus, adoring many gods, into believing that Jesus
> was
> the only "true" god.
> Now to come to the recent cases of persecution of Christians in India at
> the
> hands of Hindu groups. I have personally investigated quite a few, amongst
> them the rape of the four nuns in Jhabua, MP, nearly two years ago. This
> rape is still quoted as an example of the 'atrocities' committed by Hindus
> on Christians.
> Yet, when I interviewed the four innocent nuns, they themselves admitted,
> along with George Anatil, the bishop of Indore, that it had nothing to do
> with religion: it was the doing of a gang of Bhil tribals, known to
> perpetrate this kind of hateful acts on their own women. Today, the Indian
> press, the Christian hierarchy and the politicians, continue to include
> the
> Jhabua rape in the list of atrocities against the Christians.
> Or take the burning of churches in Andhra Pradesh a few months ago, which
> was supposed to have been committed by the "fanatic" RSS. It was proved
> later that it was actually the handiwork
> <http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/aug/16anju.htm>  of Indian Muslims, at
> the
> behest of the ISI to foment hatred between Christians and Hindus. Yet the
> Indian press which went berserk at the time of the burnings, mostly kept
> quiet when the true nature of the perpetrators was revealed.
> Finally, even if Dara Singh does belong to the Bajrang Dal, it is doubtful
> if the hundred other accused do. What is more probable, is that like in
> many
> other 'backward' places, it is a case of converted tribals versus
> non-converted tribals, of pent-up jealousies, of old village feuds and
> land
> disputes. It is also an outcome of what -- it should be said -- are the
> aggressive methods of the Pentecost and Seventh Adventists missionaries,
> known for their muscular ways of conversion.
> Thirdly, conversions in India by Christian missionaries of low caste
> Hindus
> and tribals are sometimes nothing short of fraudulent and shameful.
> American
> missionaries are investing huge amounts of money in India, which come from
> donation drives in the United States where gullible Americans think the
> dollars they are giving go towards uplifting "poor and uneducated
> Indians."
> It is common in Kerala, for instance, particularly in the poor coastal
> districts, to have "miracle boxes" put in local churches: the gullible
> villager writes out a paper mentioning his wish: a fishing boat, a loan
> for
> a pucca house, fees for the son's schooling... And lo, a few weeks later,
> the miracle happens! And of course the whole family converts, making
> others
> in the village follow suit.
> American missionaries (and their government) would like us to believe that
> democracy includes the freedom to convert by any means. But France for
> example, a traditionally Christian country, has a minister who is in
> charge
> of hunting down "sects." And by sects, it is meant anything that does not
> fall within the recognised family of Christianity -- even the Church of
> Scientology, favoured by some Hollywood stars such as Tom Cruise or John
> Travolta, is ruthlessly hounded. And look at what the Americans did to the
> Osho movement in Arizona, or how innocent children and women were burnt
> down
> by the FBI (with the assistance of the US army) at Waco, Texas, because
> they
> belonged to a dangerous sect...
> Did you know that Christianity is dying in the West? Not only is church
> attendance falling dramatically because spirituality has deserted it, but
> less and less youth find the vocation to become priests or nuns. And as a
> result, say in the rural parts of France, you will find only one priest
> for
> six or seven villages, whereas till the late seventies, the smallest
> hamlet
> had its own parish priest.
> And where is Christianity finding new priests today? In the Third World,
> of
> course! And India, because of the innate impulsion of its people towards
> god, is a very fertile recruiting ground for the Church, particularly in
> Kerala and Tamil Nadu. Hence the huge attention that India is getting from
> the United States, Australia, or England and the massive conversion drive
> going on today.
> It is sad that Indians, once converted, specially the priests and nuns,
> tend
> to turn against their own country and help in the conversion drive. There
> are very few "White" missionaries left in India and most of the
> conversions
> are done today by Indian priests.
> Last month, during the bishops's conference in Bangalore, it was restated
> by
> bishops and priests from all over India that conversion is the FIRST
> priority of the Church here. But are the priests and bishops aware that
> they
> would never find in any Western country the same freedom to convert that
> they take for granted in India? Do they know that in China they would be
> expelled, if not put into jail? Do they realise that they have been
> honoured
> guests in this country for nearly two thousand years and that they are
> betraying those that gave them peace and freedom?
> Hinduism, the religion of tolerance, the coming spirituality of this new
> millennium, has survived the unspeakable barbarism of wave after wave of
> Muslim invasions, the insidious onslaught of Western colonialism which has
> killed the spirit of so may Third World countries and the soul-stifling
> assault of Nehruvianism. But will it survive the present Christian
> offensive?
> Many Hindu religious leaders feel Christianity is a real threat today, as
> in
> numerous ways it is similar to Hinduism, from which Christ borrowed so
> many
> concepts (see Sri Siri Ravi Shankar's book: Hinduism and Christianity).
> It is thus necessary that Indians themselves become more aware of the
> danger
> their culture and unique civilisation is facing at the hands of
> missionaries
> sponsored by foreign money. It is also necessary that they stop listening
> to
> the Marxist-influenced English newspapers's defence of the right of
> Christian missionaries to convert innocent Hindus.
> Conversion belongs to the times of colonialism. We have entered in the era
> of Unity, of coming together, of tolerance and accepting each other as we
> are -- not of converting in the name of one elusive "true" god.
> When Christianity accepts the right of other people to follow their own
> beliefs and creeds, then only will Jesus Christ's spirit truly radiate in
> the world.
> The author, who writes 'The Ferengi's Column' in The Indian Express, is
> the
> correspondent in South Asia for Le Figaro, France's largest circulating
> daily. He has just published Arise O India(Har-Anand).
>
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