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Re: Re: Shocking!
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Unfortunately, conversion to Christianity does not remove caste. The Dalits
are NOT better off after conversion to Christianity. They are treated as
badly as before - if not worse - now by the Caste-Christians! See the Dalit
Christian website
http://www.dalitchristians.com/Html/problems_struggles.htm
Ram Narayanan
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From: <prabhu.guptara@ubs.com>
To: <debate@indiapolicy.org>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Shocking!
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> Fraudulent methods (if they exist today) are effective (if they are
> effective)
> only because caste-based oppression still exists today.
>
> Many people involved in Hindu fascism are deceived into thinking that
fascism
> is going to solve our country's problems. The rest are afraid of losing
> age-old caste privileges, or people who hope to gain from the triumph of
> fascism.
>
> All this has nothing to do with Islam, fraudulent methods, etc. Nor is
> focusing on Islam, "fraudulent methods" going to solve India's problems.
> Getting rid of caste-based Hinduism would be an enormous step towards
solving
> our problems.
>
> prabhu guptara
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ramn
> Sent: Sonntag, 22. Oktober 2000 08:57
> To: debate
> Cc: ramn
> Subject: FW: Re: Shocking!
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> Rakesh wrote:
>
> > As far as a policy debate is concerned the only relevant issue is
whether
> > religious freedom and human rights are guaranteed. They should be.
> >
> > All Indians should be allowed to convert to Shintoism tomorrow and to
> > Rastafari the day after, if they so desired and . Its nobody else's
> > business.
> >
>
> There is no question of any Indian being prevented from changing his or
her
> religion of his or her volition. The question is does any one have the
right
> to to indulge in fraudulent methods to convert the poor, the illiterate
and
> the tribals and in the process destroy their cultural roots? That's
> everybody's business!
>
> Ram Narayanan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rajunwk <mail@raju.net>
> To: <debate@indiapolicy.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Shocking!
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> > As far as a policy debate is concerned the only relevant issue is
whether
> > religious freedom and human rights are guaranteed. They should be.
> >
> > All Indians should be allowed to convert to Shintoism tomorrow and to
> > Rastafari the day after, if they so desired and . Its nobody else's
> > business.
> >
> > No brainer.
> >
> > cheers,
> > -Rakesh
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bhartiya" <llamba@siemens-hearing.com>
> > To: <debate@indiapolicy.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 7:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: Shocking!
> >
> >
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> > > Yes Hinduism survived 200 years of Europeans and 1000 years of Muslim
> rule
> > > but at what price :
> > >
> > > * 50 Percent of original Bharat Varsha is now is Muslim where you
> can't
> > > stand with tilak on
> > > your forehead without getting beheaded, Now look at north east
> > Bharat
> > > , Hindus have become
> > > minorities and now we are commanded not to celebrate our
festivals
> > > else face the music.
> > >
> > > * Hindus are being pushed for "Dharma Yudh", some feel time has come
,
> > for
> > > others feeling is we
> > > will survive. yes we will survive, there is a difference between
> > > surviving and living. Time and time
> > > again during the course of Bharat's Itihas we where forced to
pick
> > the
> > > weapons to resist the onslaught,
> > > those where our own people not just neighbors but our brothers
and
> > > sisters. Lets stop for a while and
> > > do some introspection before we find ourselves in much bigger and
> out
> > > of control situation.
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/lavlesh/books/books.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <Npsingh123@aol.com>
> > > To: <debate@indiapolicy.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, 16 October, 2000 3:11 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Shocking!
> > >
> > >
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> > > > Hinduism survived 200 years of European rule and 1000 years of
Muslim
> > > rule.
> > > > So there is no need to be paranoid today. Let us get on with
something
> > > more
> > > > important.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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